5/30/07
ATTN: Tim Southwick Jr., Toyota of Berkeley, CA
In August of 2003, I reserved and paid in advance for a new 2004 Prius that I have been very happy with, for the most part. I was an early adopter of a new technology, buying even before the car was available. I took possession in October, 2004. Having previously driven a Honda EV+, I was all in favor of electrics and hybrids. I am an author of over 40 books about computers and technology, and have written over 100 magazine articles about high technology, and have promoted the Prius actively since happily purchasing it from Marty Zeitman at your dealership. I have sent numerous people to your dealership to look at Priuses, and probably am responsible for a few of your sales. I myself purchased the full package #6 with all the bells and whistles. It hasn’t been perfect, with the navigation system sometimes leading me astray, for example, but that is to be expected.
At about 35K miles, the multi-display unit began to malfunction. No navgation, no radio, energy system not showing battery level, etc. I’m sure you are aware of this issue. I thought it was a glitch and would clear up, as the car is basically a computer on wheels, and we all know that computers lose their minds sometimes. Since I write books about computers, I know all about that! I just waited and hoped the problem would clear up, but it did not. I Googled about, read the Prius forums, and found that lo and behold I was not the only person with this problem! In fact, it's happening on 2004 Highlanders and Land Cruisers with the navigation system, and on 2004 Prius with or without the navigation system. I even hear there a TSB #EL002-05 which identifies this problem, which means
After realizing this was not going to clear up, I was about 5K miles past the warranty. I brought my Prius into your dealership today for reprogramming (since I received a TSB recall, called SSC 50P), and had it all checked out. Repair team captain Ray Prasad told me that it was indeed defective and I would not be covered, and I could have a refurb unit installed for $800 or so, plus tax. I was not happy about this, and so I then had a long conversation with Dave, your shop manager, who explained that because I had not come in for regular service at your dealership, I was not favorably looked upon for an out of-warranty repair of the MFD. I said I did not understand this policy, since I had already given the dealership quite a large sum to purchase the car. He explained that this was essentially irrelevant. He said that good will was dependent upon bringing a car into the dealership for service. (Apparently the good will of brining you $28,000 has very short legs.) Oddly enough, he then went on to explain that actually the dealership lost money doing oil changes because of the labor costs. I explained that I was getting my oil changes for $15 when I supply the Mobil 1 5W-30 that I like to put in my cars, and that even includes a filter, so we were both better off if I got my oil changes elsewhere. I also said that last time I asked for a tire rotation, his shop refused to do it because there was not enough tread on the tires. At that time, I felt pretty rudely treated by Ray, who grilled me about where I was getting my service done, which is another reason I had not returned for regular service, by the way.
I feel I came to Toyota of Berkeley in 2003 in good faith, and paid MSRP for a car I had never even seen before. I did not haggle, or even try. I paid $28,000 cash. This was the first new car I have ever bought. I sold my Nissan 300ZX and Audi 5000 to be able to afford this. Now this car seems has a known defect that was not recalled by
I look forward to your reply, and will await it prior to contacting regional or national Toyota Customer Service.
Sincerely,
Hopefully your letter will wake them up and they start working out with us Prius owners. We 2004 Prius owners are the ones who gave all our faith in toyota and instead of buying a reliable with any known or in some instances without any defects we decided to trust them and give them a try. Also if you look everywhere the Prius 2004 owners are the ones who actually are promoting the Prius to everyone they know and probably the ones responsible for a lot of sales. This is a known flaw which should be addressed by toyota, after all new Hybrids are being made while we post this here and I bet it would be no trouble not buying toyota and going with a different brand. Toyota is a very good brand but what is the point of having a car if every time something breaks is not covered and it will cost you a fortune.
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ReplyDeleteI saw the MFD problem start a few months ago at 135,000 miles. I'm at my dealership today waiting for diagnosis and estimate. Tech says MFD needs replacement. My Prius is an early 2004 model with 142,000 miles now. This is the first real problem I have had.
ReplyDeleteI did notice sluggish MFD response starting 6 months ago, but did not suspect a major probem would develop. Now the MFD, HVAC and radio are slow to initialize, and they all sometimes cut out. Seems like a loose wiring connection of some sort.
Mine died and, even though I had "paid" Toyota of Berkeley for the extended warranty ($750) and they said everything would be covered even if I "put my fist through it", they denied being liable for fixing it. My Prius only has 20k miles on it and it's not covered because they say scratches on the screen constitute damage. The scratches were from my inlaws putting a Garmin on the screen after the fact. You have to write your story on Yelp. They knew within hours of me writing a bad review. I don't have qualms with writing a bad review as everything I wrote is true and their service sucks.
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